{"id":2543,"date":"2008-02-07T20:58:32","date_gmt":"2008-02-07T19:58:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/?p=2543"},"modified":"2024-07-04T13:02:34","modified_gmt":"2024-07-04T11:02:34","slug":"oberheim-matrix-series-vs-marion-systems","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/oberheim-matrix-series-vs-marion-systems\/2543","title":{"rendered":"OBERHEIM MATRIX SERIES vs. MARION SYSTEMS"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"left\"><strong><font size=\"4\">OBERHEIM MATRIX SERIES vs.<br \/>\nMARION SYSTEMS Prosynth \/ MSR2<br \/>\n<\/font><\/strong><em><strong>SYNTHESIZER<\/strong>:<br \/>\n<\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\n<p align=\"left\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/oberheim\/oberheim_ob12.html\" title=\"oberheim ob12\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">OB12 not an oberheim, it&#8217;s a viscount!<\/a><\/li>\n<li><em><font size=\"4\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/oberheim\/oberheim_xpander.html\" title=\"oberheim xpander\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Xpander<\/a> \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/oberheim\/oberheim_xpander.html\" title=\"oberheim xpander\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Matrix12<br \/>\n<\/a><\/font><\/em><\/li>\n<li>back to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/oberheim\/oberheim.html\" title=\"oberheim synthesizer\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>OBERHEIM SYNTH MENU<\/strong><\/a><strong> &#8211;<br \/>\nzur\u00fcck zum <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/oberheim\/oberheim.html\" title=\"oberheim synthesizer\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>OBERHEIM SYNTHESIZER MEN\u00dc<\/strong><\/a><\/li>\n<li><em><font size=\"4\">Matrix 6 , <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/oberheim\/oberheim_matrix.html#marion\">Marion<\/a> Systems.. <\/font><\/em><font size=\"3\">&#8211;&gt; read on \/ weiterlesen..<\/font><\/li>\n<li><font size=\"3\">Alternatives to Matrix 6\/1000: the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/oberheim\/oberheim_matrix.html#vx600\">Akai vx600<\/a><\/font><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p align=\"left\"><font size=\"1\"><em>..so what is the matrix?&#8230; (take the red pill..) btw: morpheus,trinity,room 303 and matrix itself are synthesizers! you didn&#8217;t know? ;) this is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.consequence.info\/consequence_cd.html\" title=\"consequence Real?OT.noT\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Real?OR.noT?<br \/>\n<\/a><\/em><\/font><\/p>\n<table border=\"1\" cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"2\" width=\"180\">\n<tr>\n<td><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/pix\/oberheim\/matrix6R.jpg\" title=\"matrix synthesizer\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/pix\/oberheim\/matrix6R_l.jpg\" alt=\"oberheim matrix 6 synthesizer\" border=\"0\" height=\"101\" width=\"300\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<em><font size=\"2\">click image to enlarge<\/font><\/em><\/td>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td><em><font size=\"2\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/pix\/oberheim\/matrix6.jpg\" title=\"oberheim matrix 6\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/pix\/oberheim\/matrix6_l.jpg\" alt=\"Oberheim Matrix 6\" border=\"0\" height=\"105\" width=\"300\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nclick image to enlarge..<\/font><\/em><font face=\"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular\" size=\"2\"><em>image thanks to <span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.joerg-erren.de\/\">j\u00f6rg<\/span><br \/>\n<\/em><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>database: <font size=\"3\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/oberheim\/Matrix6.html\" title=\"oberheim matrix 6 synthesizer\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Matrix 6 \/ 6R<\/a><\/font><\/td>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td>database: <font size=\"3\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/oberheim\/Matrix6.html\" title=\"oberheim matrix 6 synthesizer\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Matrix 6 \/ 6R<\/a><\/font><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/pix\/oberheim\/matrix1000_white.jpg\" alt=\"oberheim matrix 1000 white\" border=\"0\" height=\"47\" width=\"300\" \/><\/td>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/marion\/index.html\" title=\"marion systems synthesizer\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Marion &#8211;&gt; (by tom Oberheim)<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>database: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/oberheim\/Matrix1000.html\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Matrix1000<\/a><\/td>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td>database: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/marion\/index.html\" title=\"marion systems synthesizer\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Marion Systems<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<table border=\"1\" cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"2\">\n<tr>\n<td><font size=\"4\">Oberheim<\/font><\/td>\n<td><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/oberheim\" title=\"oberheim synthesizer\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\"><font size=\"4\">Oberheim Synth overview..<\/font><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p><em><font size=\"4\">Oberheim <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/oberheim\/oberheim_xpander.html\" title=\"oberheim xpander\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Xpander<\/a> \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/oberheim\/oberheim_xpander.html\" title=\"oberheim xpander\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Matrix12<\/a> alternativen &#8211; alternatives:<br \/>\n<\/font><\/em><font size=\"4\">             &#8211;<\/font><font face=\"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular\" size=\"4\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/oberheim\/oberheim.html\" title=\"oberheim synthesizer\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Oberheim<\/a><\/font><font size=\"4\"><strong> Matrix6 oder\/or Matrix6R (rack) &#8211; Marion Systems MSR2 &#8211; Prosynth<\/strong><br \/>\n<\/font><\/p>\n<p>1) Matrix Series:<br \/>\n&#8211;&gt; a nice OSX <a href=\"http:\/\/home.hiwaay.net\/%7ecornutt\/Music\/Web%20Page\/M1000X_home.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>editor<\/strong> for the m1000 free<br \/>\n<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/home.hccnet.nl\/mark.strijbos\/mks80\/software.html\" title=\"mks80 programmer software\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">mark strijbos did one (m1000) for the pc (xp)<br \/>\n<\/a>another <a href=\"http:\/\/www.apple.com\/downloads\/macosx\/audio\/matrix1000programmer.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">mac os x editor<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/home.hccnet.nl\/mark.strijbos\/mks80\/software.html\" title=\"mks80 programmer software\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><\/p>\n<p><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/oberheim\/oberheim_matrix.html#Anchor-english-49575\">english <strong>below<\/strong>!<\/p>\n<p><\/a><strong><u>mini tipps Oberheim Matrix Series:<br \/>\n<\/u><\/strong>Testmode (Ext Func 7) zeigt Voice an, tut er aber auch im Display mit dem Dezimalpunkt (ebenso beim Xpander \/Matrix 12)<br \/>\n<strong>Kalibrierung <\/strong>Wenn Sie Ihren Matrix 1000 schon seit einigen Jahren nutzen, kann eine neue Kalibrierung die Abweichungen der analogen Bauteile beseitigen und daher klangliche Vorteile bringen. Dazu besitzt das Ger\u00e4t eine automatische Funktion. Dr\u00fccken Sie f\u00fcnfmal die Taste SELECT, bis die LED &#8222;Ext. Funct.&#8220; leuchtet. Nun dr\u00fccken Sie die Taste (7), danach zweimal ENTER. Das Display best\u00e4tigt den Vorgang mit der Anzeige &#8222;CAL&#8220;. Danach etwa 20 Sekunden warten!<br \/>\n<strong>Init-Sound <\/strong>ReInitialisiert man den Matrix (Einschalten und dabei Enter gedr\u00fcckt halten), so findet man auf Platz 000 einen sehr einfachen Rechteck-Sound, den man speichern und gut als Startpunkt f\u00fcr eigene Soundkreationen nehmen kann.<br \/>\n<em>(mehr sowas und Kalibrierinfos auch im <span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.synthesizerforum.de\/synthesizer\/viewtopic.php?t=267&amp;start=60\">Forum)<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<p>OBERHEIM <font size=\"3\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/oberheim\/Matrix6.html\" title=\"oberheim matrix 6 synthesizer\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Matrix 6<\/a><\/font> &amp; <font size=\"3\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/oberheim\/Matrix6.html\" title=\"oberheim matrix 6 synthesizer\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Matrix 6R<\/a><\/font> alternativen zum Oberheim<font size=\"3\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/oberheim\/oberheim_xpander.html\" title=\"oberheim xpander\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Xpander<\/a>  \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/oberheim\/oberheim_xpander.html\" title=\"oberheim xpander\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Matrix12<\/a> <\/font>gibt es klanglich und finanziell:.. matrix 6 familie und marion systems (tom oberheims firma, mittlerweile auch pleite.. weiter unten..)<br \/>\nals erstes nat\u00fcrlich die Ger\u00e4te der Matrix 6 &#8222;Familie&#8220;, also der Rackversion (3HE) also der Matrix 6R und die in schwarz und weiss daherkommenden Matrix1000.<br \/>\n2 DCOs, hard und softsync.<br \/>\n3 ENVs<br \/>\n1 tracking gen<br \/>\n2 ramps ,also superminihullkurven (steigend)<br \/>\n2 LFOs + globaler VibLFO<br \/>\n1 VCF 24dB\/okt LPF<br \/>\nmodulationsmatrix mit freier verschaltung (10 slots)<br \/>\nFM!<br \/>\n-\u00fcblicherweise nimmt man env1 f. pitch,env2 VCA,env3 FM amt<br \/>\nunterschiede: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/oberheim\/Matrix1000.html\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Matrix1000<\/a> zu <font size=\"3\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/oberheim\/Matrix6.html\" title=\"oberheim matrix 6 synthesizer\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Matrix6<\/a><\/font> und Matrix6R:<br \/>\n<em><strong><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/pix\/oberheim\/d550_matrix.jpg\" alt=\"Oberheim Matrix1000\" border=\"0\" width=\"435\" \/><br \/>\nupper pic shows the matrix 1000! btw: <\/strong><\/em> use <a href=\"http:\/\/home.hccnet.nl\/mark.strijbos\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">mark strijbos&#8216; matrix editor<\/a><\/p>\n<p>-der <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/oberheim\/Matrix1000.html\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Matrix<\/a> 1000 hat 200 RAM Speicherpl\u00e4tze sowie 800 (!!) ROM Pl\u00e4tze (h\u00e4tte das umgekehrt nicht mehr sinn gemacht? nunja, aber es ist da)<\/p>\n<p>weiss und schwarz: matrix 1000 <em><font size=\"2\">(dieses bild von happy @ synthesizerforum)<br \/>\n<\/font><\/em><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/pix\/oberheim\/matrix1000_white.jpg\" alt=\"oberheim matrix 1000 white\" border=\"0\" height=\"47\" width=\"300\" \/><br \/>\n-die kleinen &#8222;matrixe&#8220; (1000) haben keine m\u00f6glichkeit \u00fcber das front panel bedient zu werden, man ist also auf emagic sounddiver oder \u00e4hnliche editorsoftware angewiesen. daf\u00fcr sind sie nur 1HE hoch (1HE=4.5cm), aber mal eben einen Release nachregeln oder cutoff &#8211; gehtnicht!<br \/>\n-der <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/oberheim\/Matrix1000.html\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Matrix1000<\/a> ist nicht spiltbar! die matrix6 \/ 6R sind spiltbar und haben multispeicher. das ist zwar nicht wie 2facher multimode,aber besser als nix.<\/p>\n<p>-der <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/oberheim\/Matrix1000.html\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Matrix 1000<\/a> hat einen Bug, der es nicht zul\u00e4sst, den Sustain der ersten H\u00fcllkurve zu beeinflussen. Es gibt 2 Wege das zu umgehen ..Man kann das nur durch Wahl eines passenden Presets und ausarbeiten des Sounds aus diesem heraus. Dies halte ich f\u00fcr einen ziemlich heftigen Fehler, schlaue Editorprogrammierer K\u00d6NNTEN ein &#8222;Raussuchprogramm basteln, was dann aber die Parameterwahl f\u00fcr ENV1 Sustain verlangsamen w\u00fcrde.. SEHR!!..<br \/>\n<em>die liste in welchem patch welcher wert in etwa vorkommt:<br \/>\n<\/em><strong>Sustain        Patch<br \/>\n<\/strong>0 -204<br \/>\n6 -760<br \/>\n10 -200<br \/>\n15 -202<br \/>\n20 -228<br \/>\n25 -757<br \/>\n30 -201<br \/>\n35 -206<br \/>\n40 -212<br \/>\n45 -712<br \/>\n50 -214<br \/>\n59 -215<br \/>\n63 -205<br \/>\n<em>ps: danke an Alex aus dem forum f\u00fcr diese liste..<br \/>\n<strong>!!!: <\/strong>&#8222;Fetz&#8220; in the <span class=\"removed_link\" title=\"http:\/\/www.synthesizerforum.de\/synthesizer\/viewtopic.php?p=89422#89422\">forum<\/span> did a <strong>bugfix<\/strong> <strong>for the Envelope 1 Sustain-Level &#8211; not controlled by Midi bug<\/strong>!!..  Matrix 1000 &#8211; Bugfixing<br \/>\nits like this: replace Address 5E48$hex (24136) from 38$hex (56) to 2D$hex (45) and you are done.<\/p>\n<p>Fetz aus meinem Forum hat eine <strong>Behebung f\u00fcr den Sustain Level 1 Bug<\/strong> im Matrix 100 gefunden. 5E48$hex (24136) von 38$hex (56) nach 2D$hex (45) \u00e4ndern. fertig!<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/oberheim\/Matrix1000.html\" title=\"matrix 1000\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Matrix1000<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>-die Hardware ist geringf\u00fcgig anders: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/oberheim\/Matrix1000.html\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">M1000<\/a> hat DCOs, die in einem Chip verpackt sind, jedoch auch von Curtis, der M6 klingt daher etwas breiter, jedoch ist der Unterschied Matrix6 zum Xpander \/ Matrix12 noch gr\u00f6sser (der klingt wesentlich breiter). Der Rest ist \u00e4hnlich.<\/p>\n<p>matrix6 \/ 6R: haben k\u00f6nnen komplett editiert werden am ger\u00e4t mittels des alten 80er prinzips: mit der parameter die nummer des parameters anw\u00e4hlen oder mit dem cursor &#8222;suchen gehen&#8220;. dann den paramter einstellen.<br \/>\nmatrix hat midi mono mode (wie die casio CZ serie).. also einen modus, in dem jede stimme einzeln angesteuert werden kann, aber eben nur monophon. Etwas eingeschr\u00e4nkt in Sachen Controller (sie reagieren nicht pro Stimme auf velocity, was eine fette einschr\u00e4nkung darstellt) dazu ist offenbar max. duotimrales m\u00f6glich. also max 2 unterschiedliche sounds,womit die midi mono standards nicht erf\u00fcllt sind.<\/p>\n<p><strong>alternativen und bedienung:<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/pix\/access\/access_progger.jpg\" alt=\"access programmer\" border=\"0\" height=\"193\" width=\"400\" \/><br \/>\nder access programmer (ok,der hier ist der microwave progger.. mehr sp\u00e4ter)<\/strong>,den es auch f\u00fcr den waldorf microwave GAB (ja, beide sind nurnoch gebraucht zu bekommen) kann zur knobfm\u00e4ssigen steuerung der meisten parameter herangezogen werden. problem:<\/p>\n<p>1) der programmer sendet sysex! keine controller,da die matrixe zu der zeit noch nicht mit soetwas ausgestattet waren, meint: als realtime-aufzeichnung ist das nicht ratsam, oder nur vorsichtig,um genau zu sein! dann geht es einigermassen.<\/p>\n<p>2) der programmer kann NICHTs aus der matrix editieren (also keinen der &#8222;virtuellen patchcords &#8211; das herz der modulation&#8220; beeinflussen,da diese als liste in einem gesendet werden und nicht vorgesehen waren)<\/p>\n<p>3) der programmer sendet nicht alle parameter, egal ob m1000,m6 \/ 6r oder microwave! ist also nur eine TEILL\u00d6SUNG!<\/p>\n<p>ansonsten kann man damit aber beide ger\u00e4te steuern, also m1000 wie m6 oder 6r. und d\u00fcrfte f\u00fcr mehr programmierspass bringen.<\/p>\n<p>NICHT funktionieren w\u00fcrde der access progammer bei 2 weiteren alternativen zum matrix 6 \/ 1000:<\/p>\n<p>kurze specs beider ger\u00e4te: 3 ENVs, 2 LFOs + VIBRATO-LFO=3 st\u00fcck,1x LPF filter 24dB (sehr gut klingend), 2 DCOs mit sync: soft ,hard und eine mittlere stellung! (das ist was besonderes: softsync!)<\/p>\n<p>weitere fragen im <a href=\"http:\/\/www.synthesizerforum.de\/\" title=\"forum\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">FORUM<\/a>! (nicht per mail bitte!)<\/p>\n<p><a name=\"marion\"><\/a><font size=\"5\"><strong>MARION SYSTEMS<\/strong><\/font><strong><font size=\"5\"> by Tom Oberheim<br \/>\n<\/font><\/strong><font size=\"5\">MSR2 + PROSYNTH<\/font><\/p>\n<p>der msr2 ist eine 8 stimmige &#8222;variante&#8220; mit 8fachem multimode! Tom Oberheim selber gr\u00fcndete diese firma,denn mit dem Namen Oberheim schm\u00fcckt sich nun &#8222;viscount&#8220; (italienische orgeln), welche den oberheim OB12 verbrochen haben (klanglich wie sonst nicht ann\u00e4hernd des namens w\u00fcrdig).<\/p>\n<p>der msr2 ist eigentlich sonst ebenfalls mit sehr \u00e4hnlichen m\u00f6glichkeiten wie matrix 6\/1000\/6R ausgestattet wie FM und co. die h\u00fcllkurven schnappen geringf\u00fcgig weniger zu,aber das ist ja schon beim <font size=\"3\"><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/oberheim\/oberheim_xpander.html\" title=\"oberheim xpander\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Xpander<\/a><\/em> <em> \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/oberheim\/oberheim_xpander.html\" title=\"oberheim xpander\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Matrix12<\/a><\/em><\/font> und matrix nicht direkt schnell. kann durch ein zweites prosynthmodul auch 16stimmig sein.<\/p>\n<p>ansonsten ist hier ein etwas &#8222;hellerer&#8220; klang zu finden,sonst gleich mit wenigen zus\u00e4tzen.<\/p>\n<p>der prosynth war eine art &#8222;modularer&#8220;,der aber nie andere module als den msr2 hatte,so also 2 &#8222;neu-matrixe&#8220; in sich vereinen kann und nicht billig war er auch.. aber: hatte noch einen EQ zu bieten.<\/p>\n<p>die marions haben &#8222;HROs&#8220; (high resolution oscillators) als oszillatoren, angeblich h\u00f6her aufl\u00f6sende OSCs, aber letzlich kann man auch mit normalen DCOs leben ;) und ich bin w\u00e4hlerisch.<\/p>\n<p>das ganze hat rel. wenig bedienelemente, sollte also ebenfalls per software editiert werden. und bietet den grossen vorteil der 8fachen multim\u00f6glichkeit bei 8 stimmen (matrix1000 und 6 \/ 6r haben 6 stimmen). der msr hat auch einen 12dB\/okt. mode.<\/p>\n<p>die h\u00fcllkurven haben diese struktur: DAHDSR, 500 patches,200 RAM,200 ROM,100 Layers<\/p>\n<p><a name=\"Anchor-english-49575\"><\/a><strong><font size=\"4\">english <\/font><\/strong><font size=\"3\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/oberheim\/Matrix6.html\" title=\"oberheim matrix 6 synthesizer\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Matrix 6<\/strong><\/a><\/font><strong><font size=\"4\"> \/ <\/font><\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/oberheim\/Matrix1000.html\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Matrix 1000<\/strong><\/a><strong><font size=\"4\"> vs. Marion<\/font><\/strong>:<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/pix\/oberheim\/matrix6R.jpg\" title=\"matrix synthesizer\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/pix\/oberheim\/matrix6R_l.jpg\" alt=\"oberheim matrix 6 synthesizer\" border=\"0\" height=\"101\" width=\"300\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<font size=\"3\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/oberheim\/Matrix6.html\" title=\"oberheim matrix 6 synthesizer\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Matrix 6 \/ 6R<\/a><\/font>&#8212; a cheaper alternative to the oberheim <font size=\"3\"><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/oberheim\/oberheim_xpander.html\" title=\"oberheim xpander\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Xpander<\/a><\/em> <em> \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/oberheim\/oberheim_xpander.html\" title=\"oberheim xpander\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Matrix12<\/a><\/em><\/font><br \/>\n2 DCOs, hard und softsync.<br \/>\n3 ENVs<br \/>\n1 tracking gen<br \/>\n2 ramps ,also superminihullkurven (steigend)<br \/>\n2 LFOs + globaler VibLFO<br \/>\n1 VCF 24dB\/okt LPF<br \/>\nmodulationsmatrix mit freier verschaltung (10 slots)<br \/>\nFM!<br \/>\n<em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/pix\/oberheim\/d550_matrix.jpg\" title=\"Oberheim Matrix1000 Roland D550\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/pix\/oberheim\/d550_matrix.jpg\" alt=\"Oberheim Matrix1000\" border=\"0\" width=\"500\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nthe pic. shows the matrix 1000 &#8211; click to enlarge&#8230;!<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/em><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/pix\/oberheim\/matrix1000_white.jpg\" alt=\"oberheim matrix 1000 white\" border=\"0\" height=\"47\" width=\"300\" \/><br \/>\nthe matrix 6 and 6R are basically the same than the matrix 1000: xept:<br \/>\n1)matrix 1000 is 1 rack space high (matrix6r is 3 spaces high)<\/p>\n<p>2) <font size=\"3\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/oberheim\/Matrix6.html\" title=\"oberheim matrix 6 synthesizer\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Matrix 6<\/a><\/font> and <font size=\"3\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/oberheim\/Matrix6.html\" title=\"oberheim matrix 6 synthesizer\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">6R<\/a><\/font> can be edited on the box, the matrix 1000 NEEDS to be edited via computer only (like emagic sounddiver)<\/p>\n<p>3) <font size=\"3\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/oberheim\/Matrix6.html\" title=\"oberheim matrix 6 synthesizer\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Matrix 6<\/a><\/font> has split mode and multi sets, so you got 2 different sound at the same time. the m1000 is poly only.<\/p>\n<p>4) both can be edited using the access programmer (only used!)<\/p>\n<p>the matrix&#8217;s got midi mono mode, means: you got 6 monophonic but independet midi channels.. like the casio cz series&#8230; but with reduced controller response. (no velocity) and possibly no more than 2 different patches, so it is not a real mono mode..<\/p>\n<p>5) the matrix 1000 has one-chip DCOs whilst the Matrix 6r and 6 got individual curtis chips (well, something had to shrink to fit into 1 Rack Unit)<br \/>\nthe rest is identical.. 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VX600 also has VCO mod by VCO2 (FM) or VCF mod by VCO (filter fm), the VCOs are the same as the xpander, but to my ears it sounds different&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>it is a small synth looking a bit like a nord modular in white with a small 37 note keyboard (3 oktaves)<br \/>\nof course you should not expect controllers or something ,but thats the same with the oberheim\/marion stuff.<br \/>\nmore about: <font face=\"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular\" size=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/moogulatorium\/akai_mpc_linn.html\" title=\"marion systems\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Akai vx600 and other AX and VX akai synthesizers..<\/a><\/font><\/p>\n<p>the <font face=\"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular\" size=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/moogulatorium\/akai_mpc_linn.html\" title=\"akai synthesizer AX VX series\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Akai vx600 <\/a>is a modmatrix synthesizer quite comparable to the oberheim matrix 6 \/ 1000 and marion synthesizer series.. in a very tempting 3oct-keyboard version..<br \/>\n<\/font>more details: <font face=\"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular\" size=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/moogulatorium\/akai_mpc_linn.html\" title=\"akai synthesizer AX VX series\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Akai Synthesizer section.<\/a><\/font><\/p>\n<p>maybe you could count in the Crumar bit01 (bit one) and bit99 synthesizers from italy.. : <font face=\"Arial,Helvetica,Geneva,Swiss,SunSans-Regular\" size=\"2\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/moogulatorium\/siel_crumar_synthesizer.html\" title=\"analoge synthesizer\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\">Analog section .. see crumar here..<br \/>\n<\/a>it has no modmatrix but sounds quite good and could be a cheaper alternative.. and it has nice amount aif LFOs and ENVS,too..<\/font><br \/>\n<script type=\"text\/javascript\"><!-- google_ad_client = \"pub-5709106963587890\"; google_alternate_ad_url = \"http:\/\/www.moogulator.com\/ad_moogulator.html\"; google_ad_width = 728; google_ad_height = 90; google_ad_format = \"728x90_as\"; google_ad_type = \"text_image\"; google_ad_channel =\"4346048713\"; google_color_border = \"CCCCCC\"; google_color_bg = \"CCCCCC\"; google_color_link = \"000000\"; google_color_text = \"333333\"; google_color_url = \"666666\"; \/\/--><\/script>            <script src=\"http:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/show_ads.js\" type=\"text\/javascript\"> <\/script><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/ads?client=ca-pub-5709106963587890&amp;dt=1204919938945&amp;lmt=1170113065&amp;alternate_ad_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.moogulator.com%2Fad_moogulator.html&amp;format=728x90_as&amp;output=html&amp;correlator=1204919938943&amp;channel=4346048713&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sequencer.de%2Foberheim%2Foberheim_matrix.html&amp;color_bg=CCCCCC&amp;color_text=333333&amp;color_link=000000&amp;color_url=666666&amp;color_border=CCCCCC&amp;ad_type=text_image&amp;ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sequencer.de%2Foberheim%2Foberheim&amp;frm=0&amp;cc=11&amp;ga_vid=2022133006.1152147503&amp;ga_sid=1204917349&amp;ga_hid=1640356530&amp;ga_fc=true&amp;flash=9.0.115&amp;u_h=1050&amp;u_w=1680&amp;u_ah=1024&amp;u_aw=1680&amp;u_cd=32&amp;u_tz=60&amp;u_his=33&amp;u_nplug=12&amp;u_nmime=122\" name=\"google_ads_frame\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" vspace=\"0\" hspace=\"0\" allowtransparency=\"true\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"90\" scrolling=\"no\" width=\"728\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<table border=\"1\" cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"2\">\n<tr>\n<td><font size=\"5\">Oberheim<\/font><\/td>\n<td><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/syns\/oberheim\" title=\"oberheim synthesizer\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\"><font size=\"5\">Oberheim Synth overview..<\/font><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>back to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/oberheim\/oberheim.html\" title=\"oberheim synthesizer\" target=\"aktion\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>OBERHEIM SYNTH MENU &#8211; zur\u00fcck zum OBERHEIM SYNTHESIZER MEN\u00dc<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>OBERHEIM MATRIX SERIES vs. MARION SYSTEMS Prosynth \/ MSR2 SYNTHESIZER: OB12 not an oberheim, it&#8217;s a viscount! 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