{"id":30718,"date":"2017-05-15T19:38:44","date_gmt":"2017-05-15T17:38:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/?p=30718"},"modified":"2017-05-15T19:38:50","modified_gmt":"2017-05-15T17:38:50","slug":"sampler-synth-controller-diskussion-erica-euro-module","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/sampler-synth-controller-diskussion-erica-euro-module\/30718","title":{"rendered":"Sampler &#038; Synth Controller &#8211; Diskussion + Erica Euro-Module"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hier im Forum gibt es immer wieder die Diskussion, wie ein generischer Controller f\u00fcr Synthesizer aussehen k\u00f6nnte und auch wie einer f\u00fcr Sampler aussehen k\u00f6nnte.<br \/>\nOptisch ist dieser hier von\u00a0Mikael Eidenberg sogar ganz sch\u00f6n, w\u00fcrde aber stark vermuten, dass das nicht immer passt, weil er doch zu spartanisch ist f\u00fcr Sampling.<br \/>\nSampling braucht Loop Modes, deren Steuerung, Positionen von Loops und deren Modulation und bewegliche Start\/End-Positionen. Aber &#8211; was wirklich fehlt ist generell ein Controller wie dieser, der relativ g\u00fcnstig f\u00fcr Software einen nicht so schwer nutzbaren Synthesizer darstellt, also H\u00fcllkurven, LFOs, deren Wellenformen, Speed und anderer Basiselemente.<\/p>\n<p>W\u00e4re sowas zu teuer? Ich mein &#8211; ein System 1m von Roland tut genau das und ist zugleich bereits selbst Synthesizer, Plugin und Controller und macht genau diesen Job. Auch zu \u00fcberlegen ist die Wichtigkeit von LED-Kr\u00e4nzen. Die \u00dcbernahme der Werte von der Software ist nicht immer sicher &#8211; Potis hingegen sind in dieser Hinsicht leicht zu machen und per Learn-Funktion immer bereit.<\/p>\n<p>F\u00fcr FM Synths ist Endlos sicher kaum zu umgehen, was hier in diesem Beispiel nat\u00fcrlich auch genau so gemeint ist &#8211; nur so lie\u00dfen sich bestimmte komplexere Synths steuern. Aber &#8211; alles anderen? Damit man etwas hat, wo man nicht nachdenken muss und wirklich ADSR, LFO 1-4 etc. dran steht? Sowas k\u00f6nnte ich mir als sehr intuitiv vorstellen und eben nicht so generisch wie andere Controller das sind. Meinungen?<\/p>\n<p>Das Problem f\u00fcr Hardware k\u00f6nnte sein, dass die entscheidenden Dinge nicht drauf sind, ebenso bei Software &#8211; aber es gibt einen Zugriff auf wichtige Parameter. Mein Vorschlag &#8211; einfach eine Reihe weiterer Parameter einf\u00fcgen, immer eine kleine Gruppe mehr als &#8222;normalerweise&#8220; &#8211; dann schafft man einen noch handlichen Controller, der den Job machen k\u00f6nnte. Dennoch hat man f\u00fchlbare Controller f\u00fcr H\u00fcllkurven, Filter und Co, die man fast immer hat &#8211; F\u00fcr sehr spezielle Synths w\u00fcrde das nicht passen, dennoch aber f\u00fcr die meisten wie Diva und Co. \u00a0&#8211;&gt;\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/synthesizer\/viewtopic.php?f=47&amp;t=122699&amp;hilit=mikael&amp;start=100#p1445240\">Was fehlt auf dem Markt?<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/sampler-synth-controller-diskussion-erica-euro-module\/30718\/modern_hardware_sampler_desktop_studie\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-30717\"><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"30717\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/sampler-synth-controller-diskussion-erica-euro-module\/30718\/modern_hardware_sampler_desktop_studie\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Modern_Hardware_Sampler_Desktop_Studie-e1494868643482.png\" data-orig-size=\"1658,1013\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Modern_Hardware_Sampler_Desktop_Studie\" data-image-description=\"&lt;p&gt;Mikael Eidenberg&amp;#8217;s Dribble&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Modern_Hardware_Sampler_Desktop_Studie-e1494868643482-800x489.png\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-30717\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Modern_Hardware_Sampler_Desktop_Studie-e1494868643482-800x489.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"489\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Modern_Hardware_Sampler_Desktop_Studie-e1494868643482-800x489.png 800w, https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Modern_Hardware_Sampler_Desktop_Studie-e1494868643482-150x92.png 150w, https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Modern_Hardware_Sampler_Desktop_Studie-e1494868643482-666x407.png 666w, https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Modern_Hardware_Sampler_Desktop_Studie-e1494868643482-720x440.png 720w, https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Modern_Hardware_Sampler_Desktop_Studie-e1494868643482-560x342.png 560w, https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Modern_Hardware_Sampler_Desktop_Studie-e1494868643482.png 1658w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/sampler-synth-controller-diskussion-erica-euro-module\/30718\/image001-3\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-30716\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"30716\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/sampler-synth-controller-diskussion-erica-euro-module\/30718\/image001-3\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/image001.png\" data-orig-size=\"136,38\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"image001\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/image001.png\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-30716\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/image001.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"136\" height=\"38\" \/><br \/>\n<\/a>Erica has new updates &#8211; an OSC with Mixer PWM \/ Sync and a smaller Polivoks Filter<br \/>\nBei Erica gibt es inzwischen eine schmalere Version des Polivoks Filters (220\u20ac plus Steuer),<br \/>\nund einen neuen VCO mit den klassischen Wellenformen, anbaubaren Mixer daf\u00fcr und Suboszillator direkt eingebaut.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/sampler-synth-controller-diskussion-erica-euro-module\/30718\/image001-3\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-30716\"><br \/>\n<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/sampler-synth-controller-diskussion-erica-euro-module\/30718\/black-vco-with-expander\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-30715\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"30715\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/sampler-synth-controller-diskussion-erica-euro-module\/30718\/black-vco-with-expander\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Black-VCO-with-Expander-e1494868605841.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1086,1220\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Black-VCO-with-Expander\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Black-VCO-with-Expander-e1494868605841-800x900.jpg\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-30715\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Black-VCO-with-Expander-e1494868605841-800x900.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"900\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Black-VCO-with-Expander-e1494868605841-800x900.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Black-VCO-with-Expander-e1494868605841-134x150.jpg 134w, https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Black-VCO-with-Expander-e1494868605841-593x666.jpg 593w, https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Black-VCO-with-Expander-e1494868605841-720x809.jpg 720w, https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Black-VCO-with-Expander-e1494868605841-560x629.jpg 560w, https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Black-VCO-with-Expander-e1494868605841.jpg 1086w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/sampler-synth-controller-diskussion-erica-euro-module\/30718\/black-polivoks-vcf-mk2\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-30714\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"30714\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/sampler-synth-controller-diskussion-erica-euro-module\/30718\/black-polivoks-vcf-mk2\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Black-Polivoks-VCF-mk2-e1494868587450.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"511,1200\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Black-Polivoks-VCF-mk2\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Black-Polivoks-VCF-mk2-e1494868587450-383x900.jpg\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-30714\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Black-Polivoks-VCF-mk2-e1494868587450-383x900.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"383\" height=\"900\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Black-Polivoks-VCF-mk2-e1494868587450-383x900.jpg 383w, https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Black-Polivoks-VCF-mk2-e1494868587450-64x150.jpg 64w, https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Black-Polivoks-VCF-mk2-e1494868587450-284x666.jpg 284w, https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Black-Polivoks-VCF-mk2-e1494868587450.jpg 511w, https:\/\/www.sequencer.de\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Black-Polivoks-VCF-mk2-e1494868587450-425x999.jpg 425w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 383px) 100vw, 383px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Non-Generic Controller -> Synths? 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