"The River" 8 voice

Dieses Thema im Forum "Analog" wurde erstellt von Holohurlala, 26. Januar 2017.

  1. Holohurlala

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  2. swissdoc

    swissdoc back on duty

    Schöne Demo, manchmal zerrt es etwas, fein auch das eingebaute BBD Echo. Ist der Hall auch on-board? Die Stimmung scheint kein Problem zu sein, auch die FM Sounds sind tonal spielbar (was ja nicht jeder neuzugang im analogen Bereich so von sich sagen kann). Nur hässlich ist die Kiste und riesengross. Wofür bloss, innen sieht es doch recht clean und eher leer aus. Klar, der Sound braucht den Platz um sich zu entfalten und die Wärme will sich ja irgendwo sammeln.
     
  3. Peter hates Jazz

    Peter hates Jazz Jabadabadu

    Auf den letzten Renderings ist er aber normaler geworden, oder täuscht das ?
     
  4. Holohurlala

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  5. Allroundlaie

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    Zumindest mein Baloran Triko kann auch Hall. Was die Frage nicht unbedingt beantwortet, aber möglich wärs, ja.
     
  6. Holohurlala

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  7. Holohurlala

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    Vorbestellung für "The River" beginnt heute um Mitternacht, nur zwanzig Stück werden vorerst gebaut.
    Laurent verlangt 2000€ Anzahlung und den Rest vor Anlieferung, der Letzte wird spätestens am 01/03/2018 geliefert, also 9 Monate Wartezeit ...
    http://www.baloran.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=277

    Gesamtpreis ist 5040€ (inkl. Mehrwertsteuer) und die 20 Ersten sind nur für Frankreich und Europäische Länder verfügbar (220-240V).
     
  8. Holohurlala

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    Schon merkwürdig, nicht sehr viele die das Gerät interessiert auf diesem Forum, oder täusche ich mich?
    Meiner ist auf jeden fall vorbestellt :phat: ;-)
     
  9. starling

    starling Guest

    Was soll der denn kosten? Hast Du ne Anzahlung gemacht?
     
  10. fanwander

    fanwander |||

    Irgendwie sind diese ganzen monströsen analogen Subtraktiv-Synths aus der Zeit gefallen. 1982 wäre er der Wahnsinn gewesen. Und sicher habe ich noch heute tiefen Respekt vor jemandem, der sowas alleine stemmt.
    Aber wenn ich heute eine begeisternden Poly-Synth für viel Geld suchen würde, dann wäre das der C15 - aber nicht der River, der Schmitt oder der DeckardsDream.
     
  11. Holohurlala

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    2000€ Anzahlung mit Rückgabe Garantie falls die Finanzierung nicht reichen sollte die erste Serie zu decken, es ist wirklich Handarbeit. 20 werden hergestellt, der zwanzigste wird spätestens 9 Monate danach geliefert.
    Die erste Serie ist nur für Frankreich und Nachbarländer, und 5040€ wird es kosten mit 2 Jahre Garantie.
    Da gönne ich mir mal mein Weinachtgeschenk :piano: :mrgreen:
     
  12. Max

    Max engagiert

    Ich verfolge das Projekt auch und finde es auf jeden Fall auch super interessant!

    Leider kann ich mir aber nur Vintage leisten ;-) Keyboards hab ich hier auch genug rumstehen, aber wenn mal ein Rack rauskommt kann es gut sein, dass ich dabei bin..
     
  13. Holohurlala

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    Hier, von BALORAN SAS:

    "The River Reservation
    Polyphonic Analog Multi-Synth Synthesizer

    This product is a reservation for "The River" the first batch of twenty "The River".
    The booking will start on July 1, 2017 and will be stopped once the twenty bookings have been reached.
    The price of "The River", excluding postage, is fixed for this first batch at 4200€ excluding VAT or 5040€ VAT 20% include.
    The amount of the deposit is 2000€, it will finance the purchases necessary for the production of the first batch.
    The method of calculating the Paypal commission is really not favorable to flows of non-smoothed cash, I ask if possible to favor the bank transfer or the check because 3.4% of a The River is not nothing ;-)
    The reservation will be effective once the deposit is received. If payment of the deposit is not received within 10 working days, the order will be canceled and the reservation made available to other buyers. An invoice will be issued upon validation of the deposit.
    If the success of this reservation does not allow to finance the assembly of the first batch, Baloran SAS may decide not to start the production. All the sums paid will be reimbursed, without penalty to the charge or the benefit of the customer.
    After assembly and testing, the customer will be notified individually. The River will be held at the address of Baloran SAS subject to the validated settlement of the balance.
    The last "The River" must be delivered no later than March 1, 2018. On this date, the customer of an undelivered copy will be able to cancel his order and be fully reimbursed the deposit paid, without penalty to the charge or the benefit of the customer .
    A transport of The River can be organized, via a specialized carrier, in packages on pallets, with or without flight case. The transport charge and / or box will be charged in addition.
    For this first batch, The River is exclusively reserved for the French market or European neighboring countries. It will be adapted only to the 220-240 V electrical network. Any order for another destination will be rejected.
    The River is guaranteed 2 years, parts and labor, return workshop. It is important not to lose sight of the artisanal character of the instrument and of the company Baloran SAS: we are not able to take care of the logistics and return / shipping costs associated with such an instrument.
    In the event of a major design issue for The River, one and only one return of the machine will be supported by Baloran SAS for instrument upgrade.
    Some malfunctions can be solved by a partial disassembly / reassembly performed by the customer to avoid a complete return of the machine. If the client prefers a return Workshop, he will have to take care of it.
    A few weeks after the reservation, two or three presentation options will be offered. Wood sidewall treatment will also be customizable.
     
  14. Holohurlala

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    Auf GS gepostet:

    " I've received some more info from Laurent over email, I hope he doesn't mind sharing this with you:

    The River = The RiverKey + The River + The Triko. The built-in keyboard is a Fatar TP 8S, one of the best keyboards to date.

    The Riverkey handles information from the internal keyboard and midi / USB drivers. A profile is a combination of 4 layers. Each layer defines:
    - A range of keys* (start note and end note)
    - A source (internal keyboard, midi, USB)
    - A destination (The River, Midi Out or USB Out, CV + Gates)
    - A mode (polyphonic, paraphonic, monophonic)
    - A transposition (octave / semitone)
    - An automaton (arpeggio or sequencer) with transpose,* fast activation, but* no chain / song mode etc...
    - A division from the global tempo
    - A bend effect
    - mode of aftertouch chanel : standard, last key, highest key, lowest key...

    The layers can be played simultaneously or individually. So you can create 4 layers that plays on The River, the external midi jacks and via CV Gates pilot a Minimoog, plus a paraphonic modular synthesizer and have an arpeggio or sequencer on each layer ....

    The River manages 10 profiles of 4 layers.

    The River is eight independent analog voices, even the LFO. The schema is basically that of the moog Source that I modernized and completed. Adding FM from VCO2 to filter, PWM, inverted envelopes etc ...

    The River is multitimbral, the matrix of buttons on the left allows to assign from 1 to 8 voices to 1 to 8 channels. We can therefore go up to 8 different sounds of 1 voice. If several voices are assigned to a channel, you can select a unison mode and then set the detune to magnify the monaural sound.

    8 Independent LFos is wonderful for the PWM , but less practical for a vibrato. DLFO is a digital LFO that is common to every voice in a channel. It has traditional waveforms, plus S & H, Rand, RE150 crying , AR etc ... This digital LFO can be affected by a mix between velocity, modulation case and aftertouch channel.
    On the front panel, the functions preceded by an S indicate that the Shift key must be pressed to access this function. Example: shift + rate of analog LFO = analog LFO delay. The River's keyboard handles two velocities: attack and release. With Shift + Attack and Shift + Release, you can adjust the influence of velocity on attack and release of envelopes.
    The Triko is a summator for the 8 voices independent tuning of the level and pan for each voice. It is followed by an Analog Triple Chorus (BBD) and an Echo or Digital Reverb with analog routing. The parameters of The Triko are included in the Sound.

    The River allows you to memorize 200 sounds but also 40 performances. A performance is a complete picture of The River's settings: setting of each voice, voices assignments, RiverKey settings and Triko settings.
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    Each voice has its own panoramic and level. The summation is then made in stereo to pass in the Tri Chorus (each chorus also having its panoramic and level) then the effect reverb /echo which also has its panoramic and level
    Each voice has an individual output. If a plug is inserted into the output, it is removed from the mix.

    The Gates CV outputs can emit 1 digital LFO, attack and release velocity, bend, wheel and aftertouch channel. CV is compatible with V / Octave and Hertz / Volt, Gates is compatible with STrig VTrig. Sequencer and arpeggiator can be sent to CVs Gates and CV Gates supports mono, paraphonic and polyphonic modes.
    Today there is no synchronisation of the River via CLOCK inputs. Only midi clocks are managed (in and out) and No CV In, just a LFO Out

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    > Can you tell me how much of the audio path is discrete, and where it becomes digital?

    The Audio Path is full analog. I Use digipot for pan and level. The Tri Chorus is full analog, The Echo/Reverb is digital but just the Wet. Routing is analog for Dry and mix wet/dray , feedback.

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    > Is it possibly to bypass/skip the Triko and stay discrete until the outputs?*

    Yes, with ouput for each voice.

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    > On the screenshot I do see a CV input, what is this for?

    Ruban (pressur control) or CV Pedal "
     
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  16. Moogulator

    Moogulator Admin

    Schade, dass die nie in der Nähe sind, scheint ja ordentlich zu klingen.
     
  17. Holohurlala

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    Es geht vorwärts

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    Auch sehr schön in Weiss und Blau

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  18. Ich finde den optisch leider ganz und gar nicht gelungen.
     
  19. Holohurlala

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    Was findest du nicht gelungen? Die Form, Farbe, UI...?
    Ist halt wie immer Geschmacksache, mir gefällt er mit seiner bulligen Form auch nicht wirklich, trotzdem habe ich mir einen bestellt, wenn der Sound stimmt ist Aussehen Nebensache, misslungen finde ich den Synthesizer trotzdem nicht.
     
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